Comments on: The Missionary http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm Rohail Rizvi | Rogue Affiliate | Entrepreneur Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:59:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: g-digs http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-34045 g-digs Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:36:52 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-34045 Rohail, this story was very interesting. The ingenuity brought upon the missionary alone is eye opening. However, it IS deceitful, and as you noted, probably not the "most ethical" way to market something. It makes for a great story, especially with how you introduce it without giving away the premise. Rohail, this story was very interesting. The ingenuity brought upon the missionary alone is eye opening. However, it IS deceitful, and as you noted, probably not the “most ethical” way to market something. It makes for a great story, especially with how you introduce it without giving away the premise.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-4137 Aaron Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:35:42 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-4137 Actually if your university is government funded anyone has the right to use it's facilities and say what they want. It is a space for free speech. Unless you attend a private university student ID would not have mattered. However I agree that deceitful marketing shouldn't be used by anyone and most of all a religion. That defeats the whole purpose of the religion to be honest and good. Actually if your university is government funded anyone has the right to use it’s facilities and say what they want. It is a space for free speech.

Unless you attend a private university student ID would not have mattered.

However I agree that deceitful marketing shouldn’t be used by anyone and most of all a religion. That defeats the whole purpose of the religion to be honest and good.

]]> By: RohailR http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3607 RohailR Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:29:18 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3607 For the sake of anonymity, I shouldn't have disclosed what particular religion he was pushing. It is important to note that this kind of behavior is committed by missionaries from ALL kinds of different religions. It really is a shame, just because I don't think anyone should be pushed onto something as delicate as religion. Nonetheless, this happens everywhere and is not happening in just one particular religion. Hopefully, we can all learn something from this guy in terms of how to market our products/services (i.e., don't leverage the community, leverage the influential people in your community that you KNOW like your product/service). For the sake of anonymity, I shouldn’t have disclosed what particular religion he was pushing. It is important to note that this kind of behavior is committed by missionaries from ALL kinds of different religions. It really is a shame, just because I don’t think anyone should be pushed onto something as delicate as religion. Nonetheless, this happens everywhere and is not happening in just one particular religion.

Hopefully, we can all learn something from this guy in terms of how to market our products/services (i.e., don’t leverage the community, leverage the influential people in your community that you KNOW like your product/service).

]]> By: RohailR http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3606 RohailR Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:58:08 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3606 Nate, I agree that marketing should have nothing to do with religion and if a certain belief works then it should be spread upon it working and via "social proof" as opposed to "direct marketing." As for Golbguru's comments, I think he has a point and on second thought, I think I should have taken some action in order to prevent the deceitful kind of marketing he was doing because he was NOT being upfront about it. I should have at least asked to see his student ID to see whether he was really a student or not (didn't look like it). I see your point in free speech about religion, but this person was basically advertising a religion on campus. That's not the same thing as discussing points of religion with your peers, which I think is more in line with the freedom of speech that we have. This is not to say that one cannot advertise their religion...they can do so, but technically no marketing of any sort is allowed in the student center (I've tried with Walamu) and you get kicked out for that. That includes religion, in my opinion. Nate, I agree that marketing should have nothing to do with religion and if a certain belief works then it should be spread upon it working and via “social proof” as opposed to “direct marketing.” As for Golbguru’s comments, I think he has a point and on second thought, I think I should have taken some action in order to prevent the deceitful kind of marketing he was doing because he was NOT being upfront about it. I should have at least asked to see his student ID to see whether he was really a student or not (didn’t look like it). I see your point in free speech about religion, but this person was basically advertising a religion on campus. That’s not the same thing as discussing points of religion with your peers, which I think is more in line with the freedom of speech that we have. This is not to say that one cannot advertise their religion…they can do so, but technically no marketing of any sort is allowed in the student center (I’ve tried with Walamu) and you get kicked out for that. That includes religion, in my opinion.

]]> By: nate http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3548 nate Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:35:12 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3548 1. I want to apologize on behalf of ... well, all Christians who think that sucks. Terrible, indeed. My personal belief is that Christians (or anyone from any religion) shouldn't be marketing their/our ideas. It comes down to the product, not the marketing. If it works, and works well, then be a part of it. The only way people should be a part of it is if they find the relationships built (both human to human and human to God) worthwhile. Marketing should have nothing to do with it. 2. Golbguru - University campuses are for free speech, free ideas, etc. They are where ideas are spread and talked about - religion, politics, sex, all included. Reporting it to any authorities is ridiculous, unless you think that only the "authorities" direct your studying. Thinking for yourself means not always studying what you've been told to study. People talk about religious people being intolerant, and while that's true for a generalized subset of the religious population, intolerance for religious ideas is definitely shown by your comment. 1. I want to apologize on behalf of … well, all Christians who think that sucks. Terrible, indeed. My personal belief is that Christians (or anyone from any religion) shouldn’t be marketing their/our ideas. It comes down to the product, not the marketing. If it works, and works well, then be a part of it. The only way people should be a part of it is if they find the relationships built (both human to human and human to God) worthwhile. Marketing should have nothing to do with it.

2. Golbguru – University campuses are for free speech, free ideas, etc. They are where ideas are spread and talked about – religion, politics, sex, all included. Reporting it to any authorities is ridiculous, unless you think that only the “authorities” direct your studying. Thinking for yourself means not always studying what you’ve been told to study. People talk about religious people being intolerant, and while that’s true for a generalized subset of the religious population, intolerance for religious ideas is definitely shown by your comment.

]]> By: Golbguru http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3544 Golbguru Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:21:41 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3544 That's not good. If this happened on campus you should report it proper authorities. University campuses are for studying, not for spreading your religion. Religion may not be the *best* marketed product...but it certainly is the *most* marketed product. :) That’s not good. If this happened on campus you should report it proper authorities. University campuses are for studying, not for spreading your religion.

Religion may not be the *best* marketed product…but it certainly is the *most* marketed product. :)

]]> By: Adnan http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3440 Adnan Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:42:10 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3440 That's unbelievable lol! The cheek (and the pure smartness of that guy!) That’s unbelievable lol! The cheek (and the pure smartness of that guy!)

]]> By: Reid Morrow http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3434 Reid Morrow Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:39:36 +0000 http://www.rohailrizvi.com/the-missionary.htm#comment-3434 Those type of religious fanatics annoy the hell out me. I steer clear of them and if they get in my way, I run them over. Those type of religious fanatics annoy the hell out me. I steer clear of them and if they get in my way, I run them over.

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